Podcast: WINNING – Feature Conversation: Kristin Kobes Du Mez


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August 26, 2021
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On this episode of the podcast, we talk with historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez about her NYT bestselling book Jesus and John Wayne (Liveright, 2020). The theme question of the episode: “What have we lost in our desire to win?” Some topics we discuss:

  • What surprised Kristin in her research and in the book’s reception
  • Who is an evangelical? Who gets to say what is mainstream to evangelicalism and what is on the fringe?
  • How “Reformed” communities who have traditionally been “evangelical adjacent” fit into the picture.
  • What to do when we realize how much popular culture shapes Christian identity, and what it takes to resist, repent, and repair.
  • Areas for further research (the need for ethnographic studies!) and where the conversation can go from here.

If you’d like to read more you can check out the In All Things review of Kristin’s book (written by my guest co-host, Scott Culpepper): https://inallthings.org/what-has-jesus-to-do-with-john-wayne-a-review-of-jesus-and-john-wayne/

About the Authors
  • Justin Ariel Bailey works at the intersection of Christian theology, culture, and ministry. Having served as a pastor in a number of diverse settings, his research seeks to bridge gaps between church and academy, and the formational spaces where they overlap. He is the author of the book Reimagining Apologetics (IVP Academic, 2020) and the forthcoming volume Interpreting Your World (Baker Academic, 2022). He serves as associate professor of Theology at Dordt University and is the host of the In All Things podcast. 

  • Kristin Du Mez is Professor of History at Calvin College. She has written on religion, politics, and gender for The Washington Post and Religion & Politics, and is author of A New Gospel for Women: Katharine Bushnell and the Challenge of Christian Feminism (OUP 2015).

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