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  1. I read the review with anger the first time, because of this in the opening: “Hart has one intent with this volume: laying to rest any sense that the message of the Scripture…is that of God’s universal reconciliation of all humanity.” That is a proof-reading error, I trust, or a misunderstanding of ‘lay to rest’, ie, end or extinguish. He does say that the message is universal salvation, and lays to rest the claims for eternal misery in any context.

  2. A friend pointed me to this review and I am very interested in reading this book. But I must admit I’m confused and would love to get Mr. Werntz’ response. It sounds like David Bentley Hart believes and makes the case for the salvation of all humanity but this statement sounds like he believes Scripture doesn’t… “Hart has one intent with this volume: laying to rest any sense that the message of the Scripture—and not just one reading of Scripture—is that of God’s universal reconciliation of all humanity”. What am I missing? Is it apocatastasis vs universal reconciliation?

  3. Dean – What you are missing is the ATROCIOUS way that the Latin translators have handeled the Greek in the NT, making it seem like the Sacred Scriptures teach eternal hell. Augustine, who freely admitted that he hated Greek, and hence never learned it and its nuances, started this whole mess.

    And for some strange reason, Augustine’s theological novums were readily accepted by the Western Church instead of passing the muster of an ecumenical council, which is what should have been done. Had that happened, we might not be in the shape we are in today because the East would have raised hell about some of the things he invented out of whole cloth, especially his pessimistic anthropology.

  4. Every Universalist author up until this point has taken the body blows and the head shots and even the below the belt abuse of main stream critics while hardly raising their gloves. It seems perfectly acceptable to shred fully creedal orthodox Christians for an wider visionary admiration of Gods salvation and burn them at the stake with green wood. David Bently Hart comes along and proves to be the Muhammed Ali of the Universalist champions and suddenly his wit and sparring abilities serve as his disqualifying trait.
    As it is written, “I played a flute and you did not dance and I sang an dirge and you did not mourn.”
    None the less, the choral dismissal of David Bentley Harts wrecking ball of a book will not last as long as the song he has given us.
    I find it a poetic beauty that the book is so brief and yet weighs far more than McClymonds 900 page attempt to joust the subject down once and for all. Hart can say more in a page than others can say in a chapter. The book is easily shared but not easily forgotten. Thus it will power on in literary history while McClymonds book will sit lonely and heavily upon the shelf like an ugly girl at the dance.

  5. I didn’t find any mention that the Greek and the New testament does not say suffering and hell is eternal it says it lasts for ages and that does not mean eternal but a period of time which will pass and which serves to bring lessons to those who are unrepentantly wicked so that they eventually repent and as many early church fathers taught through reincarnation they should but of Jesus will eventually redeem everyone including the demons

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