Podcast: DISCERNING Cultural Wisdom & Foolishness with William Dyrness

October 5, 2022


On this episode of the podcast, I had the special treat of interviewing my doctoral supervisor, William (Bill) Dyrness about his new book, The Facts on the Ground: A Wisdom Theology of Culture. I tell the story of how I came to study with Bill, and talk shop with him about our shared interest in theology and culture. Among the topics we discuss: 

  • – Bill’s story – which includes work as a missionary, study with Dutch scholar Hans Rookmaaker, theologizing about visual art, and theological reflection on numerous topics – what ties all of these interests together?
  • – On why it is so important that we deal with “the facts on the ground” and learn to discern “cultural wisdom” as we engage the world in which we live.
  • – On how we deal with the critique that in our desire to discern God’s work within culture, we might be overly optimistic, giving God credit for the wrong things
  • – On what criteria we might use to discern wisdom from foolishness.
  • – On how Bill connected with the Kuyperian tradition, what he appreciates about it, and what he thinks we need to critique. 
  • – The difference between cultural theology and public theology, and what he hopes culturally attuned theologians will give their attention to.

Get Bill Dyrness’s new book, The Facts on the Ground: https://www.amazon.com/Facts-Ground-Wisdom-Theology-Culture/dp/1725299631

Get Bill’s earlier book, Poetic Theology: https://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Theology-Poetics-Everyday-Life/dp/080286578X 


About the Author
  • Justin Ariel Bailey works at the intersection of Christian theology, culture, and ministry. Having served as a pastor in a number of diverse settings, his research seeks to bridge gaps between church and academy, and the formational spaces where they overlap. He is the author of the book Reimagining Apologetics (IVP Academic, 2020) and the forthcoming volume Interpreting Your World (Baker Academic, 2022). He serves as associate professor of Theology at Dordt University and is the host of the In All Things podcast. 

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