Podcast: LOWERING our Expectations of Human Virtue with Dave Zahl

November 2, 2022


On this episode of the podcast, I speak with David Zahl about his new book, Low Anthropology. It’s a conversation about the expectations we set on ourselves and others, and how recognizing and reckoning with human limitation, doubleness, and self-centeredness opens up space for both grace and growth. Among the topics we discuss:

  • – How burnout, loneliness, and “us vs. them” are signs of a high anthropology
  • – How low anthropology alleviates “imposter syndrome” and sets us free from the “fantasy self we are failing to become”
  • – Why communities organized around vulnerability and weakness are healthier and more hopeful than communities organized around strength and success.
  • – How low anthropology responds to contemporary phenomena like celebrity culture and cancel culture
  • – How sermons, churches, and discipleship look different when we operate on the priority of the heart rather than the head.

Get the book: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/low-anthropology/410250

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About the Author
  • Justin Ariel Bailey works at the intersection of Christian theology, culture, and ministry. Having served as a pastor in a number of diverse settings, his research seeks to bridge gaps between church and academy, and the formational spaces where they overlap. He is the author of the book Reimagining Apologetics (IVP Academic, 2020) and the forthcoming volume Interpreting Your World (Baker Academic, 2022). He serves as associate professor of Theology at Dordt University and is the host of the In All Things podcast. 

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